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John Shirley 3350
I am selling my Tarpon 14 Dinghy. It is a 14ft dinghy designed by Percy Blandford. I was told by the person I bought it off it was constructed in 1962. It is of a double chine construction. It once had a small cuddy which has been removed. I am selling it with a trailer. I have sailed it twice last year. It only leaked a little water in the few hours it was in the water. I would describe its condition as useable but could do with some tidying up. I may have missed some crucial problem though so the best thing would be to have a look for your self. It is in my front garden in Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham. Send me an email via the forum if you are interested. I am open to offers. I am looking for about £200 for it.
Tarpon 14
port side
Bow
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Keith Muscott 1516
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I must rush in and say that this boat will be advertised in the next journal, and this morning (March 3) John has agreed with me that he is asking too little for it!

Judging by the photographs and what he has said, it is in remarkable condition for a 1962 hull (if that date is genuine – it was passed on by the last owner). Apart from investigating the centreboard case/hull joint to identify where the leak is, and putting it right, the varnished plywood inside the hull looks really good, with no black water staining in evidence, so I think it has been cared for well. He has found no sign of rot. The spars look in particularly good fettle. Although John says the sails are not as good as one would wish, they look clean enough in the photographs.

The plans for this boat are no longer supplied by the American guy who took over Percy Blandford's designs. The designer intended the Tarpon for precisely our kind of sailing; it is a tough 14ft hull with a modest, safe sail plan, and drawings for a removable plywood cuddy were part of the plans package. It is heavy by modern standards for 14-footers, but that is not a disadvantage in a cruising dinghy. I recall that a cruise account in a Tarpon with specific comments about the boat are in our bulletin archive and so in the CD of articles somewhere (no idea what that crew finally thought of the boat).

A realistic price should be something up to £350 max in my opinion.

Keith


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Steve Shone 3398
I'd agree with Keith regarding this boat. If I had space for another project I would have already been heading along the A38 for it! It would make a delightful, and on the face of it, a pretty straightforward restoration.

Steve
Steve and Eileen - ex-Dabber sailors, almost ex-Cape Cutter 19 sailors, now Lune Whammel Coastal Weekender sailors. Based in East Yorkshire and looking forward to some DCA rallies.
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Keith Muscott 1516
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Thanks for that, Steve.

If any of you wish to see the construction of this boat in some detail, which I think shows off old Percy's ability as a sound, no-nonsense boat designer par excellence, go to these pages, which John Shirley has drawn my attention to (below).

This particular Tarpon was built very recently and there is even a page or two of the (now unobtainable) plans displayed at one point. They are obviously very detailed – if you can find a set, which I wouldn't mind doing, if only to 'conserve' them. The last photo of the completed, painted hull shows off well her rugged lines.

Keith


http://www.seahamharbourboatclub.co.uk/html/the_beejay_-_part_1.html

http://www.seahamharbourboatclub.co.uk/html/the_beejay_-_part_2.html




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Keith Muscott 1516
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... And I should have said there are 4 pages in all dealing with the boat's story right through to its takling the water in the guise of an inshore fishing boat. Just change the number at the end of each web address.

If memory serves, the removable cuddy for the sailing version was smaller than this fisherman's version. Understandably.

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Keith Muscott 1516
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As a matter of interest I tracked down ClarkCraft again, who hold most if not all of Percy Blandford's sailboat plans now, from almost the smallest (Gremlin) to the largest (Hornblower).
I didn't expect a reply, as I didn't get one last time, a couple of years back, but this morning I did get an email. Apparently the lady who deals with the plans will be in mid-week, so we'll see.
The online log of building a Tarpon back in 2003 mentions somewhere that the plans he used were 30 years old, so I don't think there would be any point in contacting the builder, which is probably impossible anyway, as the harbour boat club seems to be no more, which is a great pity.
(Back in the day York Marinecraft held the plans for Tarpon and most of the other Blandfords – and produced kits too, I think.)

Keith
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Steve Shone 3398
I've been having a read through the articles you provided the link to, Keith. I didn't appreciate she was a ski boat. They reckon she can be powered by 5-10hp  
A 10hp motor would probably get my whammel up on the plane!

Steve
Steve and Eileen - ex-Dabber sailors, almost ex-Cape Cutter 19 sailors, now Lune Whammel Coastal Weekender sailors. Based in East Yorkshire and looking forward to some DCA rallies.
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Keith Muscott 1516
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SKI BOAT?!

Steve, I wonder if you went on the right Seaham Harbour Boat Club site with that link?! 

The TARPON is sort of Percy Blandford's GP14, a general purpose vessel, but as Jack Holt was a racer to the bone, the GP14 was a fast boat with a big rig that was immediately adopted for racing, something which the Tarpon does not lend itself to.

The Tarpon plans apparently show four possibilites of use, two with a centreboard and two without. With a centreboard it's a safe cruising dinghy (the one presently for sale); add the cuddy (which can be built to be removable) and you have a basic camp-cruising weekender.

Without a centreboard she can be a basic knockabout rowing boat, or (with cuddy – possibly a bigger one because you won't be troubled too much by windage in this configuration) an inshore fishing boat. The boat shown being built by the SH Boat Club member was intended for fishing, indeed it seems he had helped another member build a Tarpon for fishing previously, so he knew what he was aiming for.

I think he says somewhere that the 8hp Yammy he has on the stern is a 'big prop' model suitable for displacement hulls, shifting a lot of water with fairly low revs. (As do British Seagulls of course.) Not much hope for a skier with that on!

By altering the spacing between frames and widening the frames themselves, he has ended up with a 15ft + boat that looks remarkably like a Falmouth Bass Boat with that bow rake, and the beam is up to 5ft 8ins. It looks like there is a little more freeboard, too. I shouldn't think Blandford advised bilge keels that deep for the two sailing Tarpons, either.

I had never come across Seaham Harbour before, but it is clearly a sheltered little harbour on the Durham Heritage Coast – pity the website now seems defunct: let's hope the Harbour Boat Club isn't.

Keith




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Steve Shone 3398
A flippant comment, Keith. The thought of 10hp on a 14ft sailing dinghy surprised me

Steve
Steve and Eileen - ex-Dabber sailors, almost ex-Cape Cutter 19 sailors, now Lune Whammel Coastal Weekender sailors. Based in East Yorkshire and looking forward to some DCA rallies.
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Keith Muscott 1516
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My apologies, Steve. The perils of email.

Keith




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howard
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Hi is this still for sale can you email or ring me on 0161 485 5760 it looks a nice boat

from Howard
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howard
If any one has any dinghy fore sale  or one that needs restore that is fore sale needs to go good home can you ring or email me

on howard@soysoy@tahoo.co.uk  . just change the t to y for when emailing me  

thanks
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Tony Thomason 1688
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York Marine Craft where actually in Bradford on the edge of the infamous red light area. I used them a lot for Cresta BS1088 Marine ply in the early 70's. Sadly now long gone.
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John Shirley 3350
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I've just finished putting new suspension units hubs and bearings on the trailer that is under this boat just in case anyone wants to tow it away.
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john wombell
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I hope you managed to sell your Tarpon.  I was delighted to find this forum thread when searching on line for any information on the Tarpon design by Percy Blandford.  I stated building a Tarpon back in 1971 from a York Marine kit and never quite finished it but I have been persuaded whilst I am still able to 'get that boat finished'.  The hull was completed in the mid 1970s and I had just put the centerboard case in when a marine architect persuaded me that an aluminium centerboard would make a great difference to how the boat sailed rather than the specified 5/8" ply.  I was directed to a boatyard in Buckie for a piece of 9mm marine quality aluminium plate which required me to remove the centerboard case to reduce the internal width.  In so doing I did quite a bit of damage to the ply whilst separating it which I patched up then set the whole project to one side somewhat sickened and by then far too busy making a living.  The boat has allays been stored inside so move forward to 2018 and I have the centerboard case ready to re fit, and the rudder stock assembled - all ply parts were cut back in 1976.  Over the years I used one of the boom timbers for another boat job and now I am sourcing that and a few other bits and pieces plus paint etc.  The good story and thanks to your forum is that I contacted Clark Craft of Tonawanda near the Niagara Falls USA and for $25 I now have a new copy of the much faded and mouse chewed blueprint I need to make the spars and rig the boat, plus Percy Blandford's build instructions.  So many thanks to the DCA forum.  I'll post some photos when the boat is finished.
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Keith Muscott 1516
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Many thanks for that, John. It was a real pleasure to hear about your plans to resuscitate the Tarpon.

Both Steve Shone, 'the Biking Viking', and I bought plans from Clark Craft for interest's sake, and I phoned about acquiring them when I didn't find them on their online list; it was just that they had not run off copies of the drawings at that time, not that they had cast them into outer darkness, as I'd feared. They were most helpful people to deal with, in phone conversations and in email. 

I was sorry to hear of your trials with the centreboard case. At only a quarter of an inch difference between the 5/8" ply and the 9mm (3/8ths) aluminium plate, you would certainly have got away with it, and in any case adding thin cheeks to the ally where it engaged the inside of the case would have been preferable to all that heartache! It is not a good idea to have a centreboard that is a very close fit in the case anyway (and don't make the pivot bolt a tight fit in the board/plate, either – it should brace itself at the top and bottom of the case; if the bolt takes the strain you'll have problems with leaks). Rubber hose screwed down on the top edges of the case makes a very effective and easily replaceable 'brake' system (if the edge of the board protrudes, of course). Use short lengths of metal rubbing strip on top of the hose to screw down through it and exert equal pressure along the lengths.

Most people see the upswept bows of the Tarpon and remark, 'That's a good-looking boat'. 
The plywood cuddy is less photogenic, but no doubt handsome is as handsome does, if you want more than just a tent to camp under. The sail plan is necessarily low aspect ratio for a tough, safe cruising boat, but I'd see if other rigs belonging to friends might suit (!). Her long boom is very archaic compared with modern practice. A simple lugsail would suit the simplicity of the boat, and would also suit you if you are to be single-handed. You will probably have to move the mast step in order to accommodate a big change in the sail department, but a proper mast thwart would enable you to step a mast and lugsail without standing rigging – looks good, easy to operate and less hassle, and would suit that tough hull. 
There's no doubt that Percy Blandford's rig will need little improvement if you don't mind the looks – he was a very experienced boatman and designer. His ideal quality in a cruising rig (as relayed to me once when I phoned him about fitting a rolling Genoa to one of his designs – which he approved of) was that the boat should spill a lot of wind over the top of the sails when heeling suddenly in a gust, and then more or less help you to right her without any problem. A combination of low aspect sails and a robust weighty hull was the answer. Unless, as he said, you get caught out in the ocean, when 'anything can happen'!

Best of luck with her.

Keith




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